Comments: Two views

one effective counter to the "America supports Zionists" meme is to point out that Egypt gets almost as much money as Israel does. To which they inevitably respond, "yes, but EGypt isn't brutally occupying ... " etc etc - to which I respond "no one left to brutalize!"

Its dishonest of me ion certain respects, but I take a certain pleasure in bursting these sorts of bubbles.

Posted by Aziz at September 12, 2003 10:19 AM

Aziz, are you saying the U.S. does not support zionism?

Any intelligent observer knows that two things: the Egyptian dictatorship is no friend of so-called Islamist Muslims (in fact it jails and tortures them in large numbers) and second, the only reason Egypt gets the aid is because it agreed to make peace with Israel.

Posted by Abu Noor al-Irlandee at September 14, 2003 08:45 PM

Whether it is nihilism or not I don't know -- but there is definitely something like that in the action of extremists who engage in seemingly random acts of violence, obviously.

To say that this is characteristic of Islamists though is simply to show either complete ignorance of the Muslim world or a desire to present everything through a certain ideology despite the fact that one knows it to be inaccurate.

Those who engage in such violence are a tiny percentage of people who would be called Islamist, i.e. those who believe that Islaam should be dictating the way in which societies of Muslims are run.

Posted by Abu Noor al-Irlandee at September 14, 2003 08:50 PM